RGM Chat

Aran 9/2/97 7:49 AM

Long post (forgive me), but this is info from Roland’s web site that is
good background before the chat begins. The man behind the brand, Roland G.
Murphy, is a watchmaker by trade whose intent to creating is to bring
technical prowess and complicated movements to the forefront. Just a few
hundred timepieces will be produced by RGM this year, with only minimal
production increases on the drawing board for the coming years. Created and
assembled in the U.S.A., with parts being produced in Switzerland, RGM is
a line currently consisting of just five exclusive models, with two more
being introduced later this year. While the inception of the line in its
design phases dates back to 1991, it took several years of sourcing and
sample-making before Murphy was pleased with the results. He showed some
preliminary pieces in 1993, but it was not until early 1994 that he began
in earnest planning the advertising and marketing strategy behind the
line. Positioning RGM as a high-quality, traditionally made mechanical
collection of timepieces, Murphy has focused on exclusivity and custom
design. Each watch in the collection is individually numbered and signed.
Each component is manufactured in Switzerland to RGM’s design and quality
standards. Every watch in the RGM line is crafted of either 18kt yellow or
pink gold, or platinum and features a hand-finished precious metal case,
engine turned dial and blued steel hands.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com) 9/2/97 7:50 AM

Thanks Aran…now I don’t have to do a background introduction…thanks…

bernard 9/2/97 7:59 AM

hi Roland and everyone, could you fill us in on a
little bit on your own watch collecting background and tastes? I live and work in spore.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com) 9/2/97 7:59 AM

OK…hi TimeZoners…tonight we’re having a Chat
with Roland Murphy..who is RGM watches..let’s get started. Welcome
everybody…and Welcome Roland

RGM ( href=”mailto:H3H3@aol.com”>H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 8:00 AM

Hello everyone I am looking forward to a interesting
chat and a opportunity to meet new watch lovers like myself. I hope a few
of you will check out some of my new watches this Fall. Lets get started.

RGM ( href=”mailto:H3H3@aol.com”>H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 8:01 AM

Forgive my slow typing

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 8:01 AM

Roland..how did you get started in watches in the 1st place?

Justin Time 9/2/97 8:02 AM

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Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com ) 9/2/97 8:02 AM

I’ve only seen your watches listed in Watches ’96
(five models). I’m wondering about your choices on movements, the reasons,
considered alternatives, technical preferences, etc.

Aran 9/2/97 8:02 AM

RGM, I noticed that you use a 7750 and 7751 as the
base for your RGM Chronograph 101 RGM Chronograph 101M. What movement do
you use for the RGM Jumping Hour 102J and the RGM Jumping Hour 102JC and
why? Also, what is the base movement for the RGM Tourbillon?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 8:06 AM

Boy is that a long story. I worked in a clock factory
when I was in High School, making wood cabinets. The company went out of
business and my father and I bought a lot of clocks, some finished some
not. I put a lot of clocks together and sold them I learned how to work on
the movements and found I was good at it. So I wanted to go to school to
learn, I went to Bowman tech in Lancaster [its gone now] I took the clock
course and we also learned pocket watches that’s when I switched to
watches.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 8:08 AM

Aran, bernard..could you post your question again..I
think it got lost in the log on’s

Gary (gary@ibm.net )
9/2/97 8:08 AM

I wondered why you chose Lancaster. Until 1967 my
grandfather had a store there.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:08 AM

I went to WOSTEP in Switzerland in 86

Aran 9/2/97 8:09 AM

I noticed that you use a 7750 and 7751 as the base for
your RGM Chronograph 101 RGM and Chronograph 101M. What movement do you
use for the RGM Jumping Hour 102J and the RGM Jumping Hour 102JC and why?
Also, what is the base movement for the RGM Tourbillon?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:10 AM

The 102J has a modified AS 1727 movement

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 8:11 AM

Guys..try to keep the questions that can be answered
in a short sentence or two

RJFoti ( href=”mailto:rjfoti2@pipeline.com”>rjfoti2@pipeline.com
) 9/2/97 8:11 AM

Roland, do you have any plans at all to introduce any
stainless watches this year or next and if not, why not?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:11 AM

The Tourbillon is a Lemania movement but finished by a
small shop not Lemania.

bernard 9/2/97 8:11 AM

Roland, could you give us an insight into your tastes
regarding watches? eg your favorite pieces even if they are your own
designs.

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 8:12 AM

On what factors do you choose movements?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:12 AM

I am introducing several watches in SS this year and
next year. A few models are available now.

albert 9/2/97 8:13 AM

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RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:14 AM

Watches I like of my own I like all of them some more
then other one of my favorites is my 102J.

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 8:14 AM

Roland, what is the reason for a different case design
for the stainless models?

david andriessen ( href=”mailto:david@lookoutgfx.com”>david@lookoutgfx.com
) 9/2/97 8:14 AM

Hi Roland, what do you do to a raw ETA 2892 for
instance to make it run better. Or do you just purchase better parts and
assemble them?

Drew McEachern ( href=”mailto:drew@timepieces.com”>drew@timepieces.com
) 9/2/97 8:14 AM

Roland, as a watchmaker I’m happy to see a repair
person as the head of a timepiece company for a change instead of
marketing and advertising types. I am in the northern California area. Do
you have a local dealer/repair person by me?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:15 AM

I Also like watches like a number of Breguet watches
and the Patek 3970 one of my all time favorites

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:17 AM

I like to use different designs for cases it keeps my
interest [that's what I do] I will keep the 102J style its unique to
RGM

Aran 9/2/97 8:19 AM

Why did you chose a solid silver dial for the 102J
instead of gold or some other metal?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:19 AM

The 2892 movements I use are modified for looks and
function, there are a lot of high class movements out there that have
trouble running added complications.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:20 AM

I have a new dealer in California Paris
1925

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 8:22 AM

sorry….this wasn’t meant as a plug

Justin Time 9/2/97 8:22 AM

Hello Roland, I have questions on finishing a movement,
similar to David’s, but perhaps more general. I’ve heard and read that
substituting parts-e.g. a different balance wheel/hairspring-can improve a
stock movement. I have two questions:1. Which parts do you usually replace
to improve the performance of ETA/ Valjoux movements?2. Outside of using
better parts, how does an in-house finishing improve a watch performance
and reliability?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:22 AM

Most of my Engine turned dials are solid silver, the
tourbillon and the Minute Repeater Perpetual calendar have solid gold
dials, the 102J has a brass engined turned dial the reason is under this
dial there is a deep recess for the hour disk

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:25 AM

The finish on the bridges is just for the eye. but if
you upgrade the balance complete [balance wheel, hairspring], escapement
and mainspring you will get a much better rate.

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 8:25 AM

Roland, what complications other than chrono are you
think of for stainless line?

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 8:27 AM

Why do you choose platinum over white 18K?

david andriessen ( href=”mailto:david@lookoutgfx.com”>david@lookoutgfx.com
) 9/2/97 8:27 AM

Roland, thanks for your information. I have another
rather technical question. My knowledge is rather lacking in the
chronograph department. Could you explain how the power is transferred to a
chronograph when it starts. I imagines something like two gears pushed
together but this will cause major grinding and wear?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:28 AM

In SS we have a Auto Alarm coming end of next month
with a engined turned dial and a 2-tone engined dial, Also a split second
Chrono next year.

david andriessen ( href=”mailto:david@lookoutgfx.com”>david@lookoutgfx.com
) 9/2/97 8:28 AM

Sorry for the typos:)

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:30 AM

When you push the button on a chrono a lever will
engage a transmission of wheels [gears] simple explanation

Aran 9/2/97 8:31 AM

RGM, do you have any dealers on the east cost? NYC,
Philly, or D.C.?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:31 AM

Platinum verse 18K white, I like Platinum

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:32 AM

In New York try Kenjo

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 8:33 AM

Roland, any plans for a bracelet for stainless sport
watches?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:33 AM

Platinum is harder

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:33 AM

It also has a grey look

RJFoti ( href=”mailto:rjfoti2@pipeline.com”>rjfoti2@pipeline.com
) 9/2/97 8:34 AM

Roland, what is on your wrist right now?

bernard9/2/97 8:35 AM

Roland, this is a serious suggestion, since you are
one of the rare English speaking watchmaking companies, please consider
organizing a yearly technical course for hobbyist sat your factory, we’ll
gladly pay to come join and learn for lets say 4days…good exposure
too.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:35 AM

I will add a bracelet for some of the SS watches next
year. It will fit the watches we sell this year.

Aran 9/2/97 8:37 AM

Do you do any machining or finishing of components in
your workshop, or is that work all done to your specifications in
Switzerland? And if all the work is done in Switzerland, do you think that
it is economically feasible to manufacture mechanical watches in the
U.S.?

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 8:37 AM

Is a SS jumping hour planned?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:37 AM

on my wrist now is a 101M

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:38 AM

Sorry training courses not possible try the
NAWCC

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:39 AM

I may make a 102J in SS [maybe]

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 8:40 AM

Hi Vincent….where’re in the middle of a chat…try
and pick up the dialogue..but don’t post until you have a question for
RGM

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:43 AM

I would like to list some of the new watches available
now or this fall.

VincentG ( href=”mailto:VinceDude@webtv.net”>VinceDude@webtv.net
) 9/2/97 8:43 AM

On my wrist is a Seiko Auto in SS w/ black face and it
has a 2 tone SS & 14K Speidel Sport bracelet attached.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 8:44 AM

Rose gold manual skeleton chrono hand engraved using
the Valjoux 23 movement. rose gold case rhodium movement with solid silver
skeleton dial

bernard 9/2/97 8:45 AM

Roland, sorry if I am out of line here but here in the
east (Singapore) we often compare RGM with Mueller, what is your personal
take on this?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:46 AM

I will also be using on a few models 2-tone engined
turned dials. The textured part in dark blue the remaining part of the
dial in silver

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 8:47 AM

What aspect of watch making is most satisfying to you
personally? Aesthetic, technical, production, marketing?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:48 AM

Mueller makes nice stuff, he has a lot more money
behind him that’s why is line has grown so much.

Aran 9/2/97 8:48 AM

With the increased diversity in your line, what is
your goal for numbers of different models?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:49 AM

The first 2 aesthetic and technical not production or
marketing

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:50 AM

I also was want to make new models not the old ones
over and over.

Darrell 9/2/97 8:50 AM

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RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:51 AM

Sorry for my typing

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 8:51 AM

Are you personally doing all the engineering? How many
employees in the US?

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 8:51 AM

Roland, given the success of the Chronoswiss Opus in
SS, maybe you should give them a run for the money with a SS skeleton. In
the new stainless case it would be much slicker in my opinion.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:51 AM

See typing

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:52 AM

I am already considering a SS skeleton maybe next
year.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )
9/2/97 8:53 AM

I do all the design work and a lot of assembly, but I
do have help with assembly

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 8:54 AM

Roland…..approximately how many watches do you
normally produce each year?

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 8:55 AM

Do you use CAD in the design process.

Justin Time 9/2/97 8:55 AM

Roland, I am excited about the SS skeleton! Thanks for
the answer on movement finish. I have a follow-up question. Does finishing
the wheels (deburring, chamfering-sp?) or replacing them with gold wheels
as in many top watches have any effect on performance and longevity, or is
it just for look?

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 8:55 AM

That’s energy!

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 8:56 AM

When it was just gold it was around 200. Now with SS
also we have to see this is the first year for SS and only half a year at
that.

Roy Wood ( href=”mailto:RWoodvira@earthlink.com”>RWoodvira@earthlink.com
) 9/2/97 8:57 AM

Sorry I got here late. Roland, there seems to be a
trend towards large ss models, like the remake of the Luminor Panerai. Any
chance of doing your own twist on this theme?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 8:58 AM

I do not know of anyone right now using solid gold
wheels, there would be no advantage other then looks.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 8:59 AM

I do design work on the computer and on
paper.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:01 AM

I have no plans to do anything like the Luminor
Panerai, If you want to order a few maybe.

Cris 9/2/97 9:01 AM

To follow up on the aesthetic and technical aspects
(and uniqueness), have you considered a higher beat ebauche, e.g., the El
Premiero @36 000 vps—1/10 sec resolution?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:03 AM

I would like to say that I would be glad to hear ideas
from fellow timzoners

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:03 AM

What kind of numbers would you need to do a special
order? Special dial? Case metal?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:05 AM

I can do any numbers, I make custom watches now for
customers sometimes 1. Its all in the $$$The more you make the better the
price.

Aran 9/2/97 9:05 AM

Roland… could you talk a little about your sales?
For example are you distributed just in the U.S. or in Asia and Europe?
How are your sales (rough percentages) distributed geographically around
the globe?

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:07 AM

As a comment on the skeleton: I usually find the
chasing done on them too elaborate and detracting from the beauty of the
movment. I’d like to see nothing more than beautifully finished movement
parts.

Darrell ( href=”mailto:dhtrek@aol.com”>dhtrek@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:07 AM

Roland, How about a diver’s watch since you asked what
we would like

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 9:07 AM

Here is a suggestion Roland, how about a power reserve
indicator?

John Nugent ( href=”mailto:jpnug@evansville.net”>jpnug@evansville.net
) 9/2/97 9:08 AM

He posted a picture of it on the open forum

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:08 AM

Most of our sales are in the US, we are going to start
in Germany soon and we are looking for someone to work with in the Far
East

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:09 AM

I am working on a shaped movement with someone in
Switzerland with small second and reserve, it might be ready for next
summer.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:11 AM

When I have the bracelet worked out I will work on a
SS divers model.

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:12 AM

How much of a contribution do you think water
resistance makes to the general cleanliness of the movement (dust, etc.)
and how important is this to the running and longevity of the
watch?

Aran 9/2/97 9:12 AM

Clif.. good question, I was also going to ask about a
power reserve indicator. Power reserves in pocket watches were relatively
common, yet the price differental for wrist watches seems very high.. why
is it so difficult to add a power reserve indicator or is there just low
demand for this complication (I can’t imagine driving without a fuel
indicator) ?

Justin Time 9/2/97 9:12 AM

Roland, very exciting news on the power reserve and skeleton. I agree with Walt Odets. Also, when a skeleton watch is too
ornate-many of them are!-the dial becomes exceedingly difficult to read. A
case of function sacrificed to form. I must say that at the surprisingly
small numbers they are produced, your watches are a bargain.

david andriessen ( href=”mailto:david@lookoutgfx.com”>david@lookoutgfx.com
) 9/2/97 9:12 AM

Roland, what do you think about the renaming of
movements. Some manufacturers seem to do their best to hide what’s really
in their watches…is it beneficial or counter productive in your
opinion?

Gary (gary@ibm.net ) 9/2/97 9:12 AM

Have you considered designing your own
movement?

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:13 AM

Roland..I noticed on the new steel chrono that the sub
dials were different engine turned(?) design than the rest..is the dial
assembled like a puzzel and soldered together?

John Nugent ( href=”mailto:jpnug@evansville.net”>jpnug@evansville.net
) 9/2/97 9:14 AM

You know I went over and picked up HemiPod #12…..a
neat watch…I have to tell you that the big surprise was the Tutima. I
really like their watches. That guy Halle was not a nice guy and I will not
do business with him (my experience was before his post) that is why I was
hoping you would carry them

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:14 AM

Old watches without gaskets and tubes for the crown
would get dirty very fast under daily use, and would create havoc on
timekeeping

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:16 AM

The different patterns on a engined turned dial are
all on one piece of metal

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:16 AM

I gather you are referring to the crown gasket, not
the back gasket?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:20 AM

No also the back gasket, and the tube and crown gasket
all help keep the watch clean

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:21 AM

To tool up and make a movement production just for RGM
from ground up not using a modified base would cost millions.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:22 AM

We could make 1 or 3 or 4 but this does not make a
line.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:23 AM

Roland…I’m still fixated on making a custom
watch….how many must be ordered to make it cost feasible for the
buyer

Justin Time 9/2/97 9:23 AM

Roland, thanks for your straight and helpful answers.
Thanks Richard for a great guest. Sorry I have to go. My lab experiments
are acting up, as usual at the most inopportune time. Gotta run. Bye
guys!

Justin Time 9/2/97 9:23 AM

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RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:24 AM

It makes a lot more sense to start with a quality base
and make it what you want.

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:26 AM

Have you any interest in F. Piguet movements for your
watches?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:26 AM

Richard if you want to modify a model I have dial, hands etc.. its not so costly. If you want a ground up watch you
might want to consider 50.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:28 AM

I am going to make a few gold watches like model 107
but with the Lemania 8810 movement and I am working on a model for next
year using the F.Piguet chrono movement.

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:29 AM

The Piguet chrono (esp. the 2100) gets a lot of
favorable attention on the forums.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:31 AM

Roland…. when do you think you’ll have your web page
up and running?

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:31 AM

By “2100″ I mean the 11.50 based chrono.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:31 AM

I am making another 5 Tourbillons for Jan 98 and
another 6 Minute Repeater Perpetual calendars 2 a year for the next 3
years.

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 9:32 AM

Roland, make a SS skeleton using F. Piguet as in BP
2100 chrono and flyback, send it to Richare and I will take it.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )9
/2/97 9:32 AM

The web page should be in good shape in about a week
or 2.

Gary (gary@ibm.net ) 9/2/97 9:33 AM

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RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:34 AM

A Skeleton with the Piguet movement would be
$$$

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 9:35 AM

Roland, better do it before BP does it.

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com) 9/2/97 9:36 AM

I’d settle for a display back.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:37 AM

Clif I will check out what it would cost.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:38 AM

Walt the display back for sure

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:38 AM

For just this one time, could we keep Rolex out of the
discussion?

skyjack 9/2/97 9:38 AM

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skyjack 9/2/97 9:39 AM

hello I have a question

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:39 AM

I find the Piguet movements very beautiful right out
of the box.

John Appel ( href=”mailto:appelj@nr.infi.net”>appelj@nr.infi.net
) 9/2/97 9:40 AM

Hi all, better late than never…

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:41 AM

Welcome John….

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:41 AM

The Piguet movements are very high quality, Patek even
uses one.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:41 AM

Clif..ignore my last message it was a mistake
…

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:44 AM

Roland..you were saying earlier that certain movements
are not good for complications, yet some companies still use them..could
you elaborate

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:44 AM

Does the simple styling of the traditional BP have any
appeal to you–the pieces of yours I’ve seen are more along the Breguet
line (engine turning, etc.)?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:46 AM

Everyone has there own style but I am not limited by
what I have already done.

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:48 AM

Some companies have had trouble with a few high-grade
movements running calendars, chronos etc… I would rather not name
names

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:50 AM

OK…it’s getting on 2 hours now…we’ll take 2 more
questions and then Roland will call it a night..

Clif Poole ( href=”mailto:LACEPoole@aol.com”>LACEPoole@aol.com
) 9/2/97 9:51 AM

Thanks for a great evening Roland, it was well worth
the wait. Thank you also Richard. Goodnight to all fellow TZers.

Kurt Hoss ( href=”mailto:khoss@erols.com”>khoss@erols.com
) 9/2/97 9:52 AM

How do you see RGM in the future? – A renaissance of
the the great American watch companies perhaps , with RGM the spark ? Do
you think there could be the growth and interest that would produce the
million necessary to work new movements from the ground up?

John McSweeny ( href=”mailto:jmcsweeny@compuserve.com”>jmcsweeny@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:52 AM

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R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:54 AM

HI John…welcome aboard..we’ve been on for 2 hours
about to wrap it up..it was a great chat..see you in Detroit

Walt Odets ( href=”mailto:odets@compuserve.com”>odets@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 9:55 AM

Many thanks Roland and Richard . . . Signing
off

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:57 AM

I see RGM in the future as a company trying to stay
close to its roots, high quality, mechanical watches made in a traditional
way. Not a company like so many worried about large sales numbers and the
constant pressure from investors to produce profits. RGM has no investors
other then me. So I have no outsiders telling me what to do this is
rare.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 9:57 AM

Okay…let’s wrap it up….Roland , thanks so much for
coming on with us tonight…TimeZone really appreciates your time, it’s
been a very enlightening evening…goodnight everyone

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 9:57 AM

One more question

RGM (H3H3@aol.com )9/2/97 9:59 AM

Richard I had a great time, if you will have me I
would love to do it again in a few months.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 10:00 AM

Roland..anytime you’d like to come back with us would
be our pleaseure..thanks again

Gary (gary@ibm.net ) 9/2/97 10:00 AM

Thank your Richard & Roland. Richard, did you make
a transcript?

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 10:00 AM

Good night

Kurt Hoss ( href=”mailto:khoss@erols.com”>khoss@erols.com
) 9/2/97 10:00 AM

Thanks a lot Roland – Good night all

RGM (H3H3@aol.com ) 9/2/97 10:01 AM

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R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 10:01 AM

Yes….the office in Singapore (I hope) is making a
transcript of the chat

John McSweeny ( href=”mailto:jmcsweeny@compuserve.com”>jmcsweeny@compuserve.com
) 9/2/97 10:03 AM

Hello Richard (and goodbye soon), Sorry I’m late. I hope
you enjoy Dearborn, home of Ford Motor Co. I shall look forward to getting
a look at the transcript.

R. paige ( href=”mailto:richard@paris1925.com”>richard@paris1925.com
) 9/2/97 10:03 AM

Goodnight.